Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/25/1993 05:12 PM Senate O&G

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              SENATE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON OIL & GAS                            
                         March 25, 1993                                        
                            5:12 p.m.                                          
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Senator Loren Leman, Chairman                                                
  Senator Judith Salo                                                          
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
  Senator Rick Halford                                                         
  Senator Bert Sharp                                                           
  Senator Al Adams                                                             
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  Group Insurance Pooling                                                      
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  Larry Eppenbach                                                              
  Legislative Research Agency                                                  
  130 Seward St. Suite 218                                                     
  Juneau, Alaska 99801-2196                                                    
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on Group Insurance Pooling.                   
                                                                               
  Ray Gillespie                                                                
  Association of Refined Fuel Distributors                                     
  9478 Riverbend Court                                                         
  Juneau, Alaska 99801                                                         
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on Direct Action Insurance.                   
                                                                               
  James Cantor, Assistant Attorney General                                     
  Department of Law                                                            
  1031 W. 4th, Suite 200                                                       
  Anchorage, Alaska 99501-1994                                                 
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on Direct Action Insurance.                   
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-11, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR  LEMAN called the  Special Committee on  Oil and Gas                 
  meeting  to  order at  5:12  p.m. and  announced  they would                 
  discuss group insurance pooling.                                             
                                                                               
  LARRY EPPENBACH, Legislative Research, said  his report grew                 
  out of SB  405 from last year which was  remedial in nature.                 
  It solved the open ended liability insurance companies faced                 
  with  uncertain coverage  amounts that  could have  exceeded                 
  their policies.  SB 405 limited the policy amounts.                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  The  Section  of  SB 405  addressed  to  non-crude operators                 
  waived  a  requirement for  non-crude  operators to  pay for                 
  financial responsibility with insurance with a direct action                 
  clause.                                                                      
                                                                               
  The major findings in this report  say that state or private                 
  pooling  isn't  likely  to  create a  competitive  insurance                 
  product,  because   there  are   not  that  many   non-crude                 
  operators.   There are about 72 in the  state and 9 of those                 
  are exempt (because they're part of the federal government),                 
  29 are  quite large  and self  insure or  are guaranteed  by                 
  others.   Thirty one  of them  purchase insurance.   Six  of                 
  those have  insurance that  successfully  contains a  direct                 
  action clause.   The other 25  have been granted waivers  by                 
  the DEC.                                                                     
                                                                               
  The most attractive  alternative is for a  private insurance                 
  product  to be  developed that  would  have a  direct action                 
  clause.  There are two ways  that could occur, MR. EPPENBACH                 
  said.  One, the  clause could be directly in  the insurance,                 
  and two, an umbrella policy  could be written that  provided                 
  direct action in  addition to  other insurance the  operator                 
  might possess.  Therefore, the package of the two might meet                 
  all the requirements.                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 177                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN  asked if  the direct  action clause would  be                 
  secondary to the  other insurance.   MR. EPPENBACK  answered                 
  almost certainly.                                                            
                                                                               
  MR.  CANTOR said  some private  entities are working  to put                 
  together a  package with Lloyd's  of London that  will solve                 
  Alaska's problems.                                                           
                                                                               
  MR.  EPPENBACH commented that  it looked a  lot like private                 
  insurance would be solving the insurance problem in the very                 
  immediate future and  the delay suggested in  the report was                 
  not unreasonable.                                                            
                                                                               
  Number 244                                                                   
                                                                               
  RAY   GILLESPIE,   representing   three    refined   product                 
  distributors,  said   direct  action   insurance  has   been                 
  consistently  unavailable  since the  Exxon-Valdez incident.                 
  He  said  right now  the  companies have  an indemnification                 
  policy  underwritten  by Lloyd's  of  London, which  says if                 
  there is a judgement rendered against the company, they will                 
  come in and pay  the judgement.  Lloyd's of London has never                 
  agreed to be sued in any court in the United States.                         
                                                                               
  MR. GILLESPIE said  that the  direct action requirement  for                 
  companies  like  the  ones  he  represents  is  superfluous,                 
  because  they have  strong ties  in  Alaska and  have assets                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  large enough to cover any spill.   He noted that California,                 
  Florida, Washington, and Virginia have dropped  their direct                 
  action requirement.  These states have in  law a requirement                 
  for a bond.  The bond is waived if the company meets certain                 
  conditions  - that  is substantial  assets and a  history of                 
  connections with the state.                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 323                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR SALO  asked what  our history  was on lawsuits  over                 
  direct action  issues.   MR. GILLESPIE  said there  had been                 
  maybe one at the most.                                                       
                                                                               
  SENATOR SALO  said she understood that Lloyd's of London was                 
  having financial difficulties and asked if that would affect                 
  their ability to write insurance for direct action.                          
                                                                               
  MR. CANTOR explained that one part of Lloyd's was in trouble                 
  and  possibly  the  Exxon  Valdez  incident  was  making  it                 
  difficult to purchase this type of insurance.                                
                                                                               
  Number 355                                                                   
                                                                               
  SENATOR  LEMAN  asked  why other  states  were  dropping the                 
  direct action provision.  MR. CANTOR said that the realities                 
  of  the insurance  market  have caused  the other  states to                 
  change their financial responsibility requirements.                          
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN thanked everyone  for their participation  and                 
  adjourned the meeting at 5:40 p.m.                                           
                                                                               

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